01-19-2012, 08:51 PM #3. Sometimes markings are deliberately deceiving, as with some.30 carbine ammunition ammunition marked LC 52, made by the Chinese, or .30-06 marked B N 4 40 made in the U.S., both probably intended to arm allies while hiding their source of supplies. Ross rifles were purchased by the U.S. Army for training purposes shortly after the United States entered WWI in 1917. The U.S. Army ordnance bomb is stamped behind the trigger guard along with the numbers "1589" and "27". There are also old markings, crossed with a single line. The stock also displays issue markings, model designation and serial number The right side of the buttstock displays a cartouche, "'Crown', QUEBEC, DC, 'Broad Arrow'". The markings also show a mark CEF in a circle over 16. Maker: Ross Model: Mk.II Caliber:.303 Description: NSN, .303 British, 28 barrel with a bright excellent bore. This Ross remains in its' original configuration showing its' original metal and wood. The U.S. Army ordnance bomb is stamped behind the trigger guard along with the numbers "1589" and "27". There is much confusion over the correct name/model for this bayonet and it has been known by many different titles: Canadian Ross Rifle Bayonet, Model 1910 (aka Mark I Ross; aka Model 1905; aka Model 1905/1910; aka Pattern 1908; aka Model 1910, etc). 1-1000, B 1-1000 to Z 1-1000 followed by AA 1-1000, AB 1-1000." We have not identified this mark, but it may well be a taken out of CEF service marking. This is an example of a Canadian Ross Model 1905 with U.S. markings. The issue Ross rifles were taken to England to the Canadian repair depot. 3. Except for markings, it is virtually identical to the US Ross Model 1905. Ross rifles were purchased by the U.S. Army for training purposes shortly after the United States entered WWI in 1917. 1905./PATENTED". Military Issue Rifles 2. As to the serial number I quote from THE ROSS RIFLE STORY- page 459: "A. All of the Ross's were replaced in the summer of 1916 with the exception of the Ross Snipers. This is an example of a Canadian Ross Model 1905 with U.S. markings. However, it is evident from period photographs - and some known unit markings - that some Battalions designated as "Rifles" nonetheless were armed with Long Rifles. 1905/PATENTED". The left side of the receiver is marked "ROSS RIFLE CO. QUEBEC CANADA. ROSS RIFLE INFO I am not a Ross expert but I shall provide the following comments: 1. Next is the same photo as was used for the cover image of "A Question of Confidence: The Ross Rifle in the Trenches", which is essentially a reprint of "The Ross Rifle, Monograph" published as an appendix to "The Official History of the Canadian Forces in the Great War, 1914-1919" - Mark III action cutaway - Inside the Ross Rifle Company factory - The left side of the receiver displays following markings, "ROSS RIFLE CO. QUEBEC CANADA 1905 PATENTED". 11. A. The left side of the receiver is marked "ROSS RIFLE CO. QUEBEC CANADA. Click to enlarge the picture 01-19-2012, 11:00 PM #9. The butt markings show that this rifle was reissued in WWII and show the marking KA 11.42(Nov 1942) There is a second KA marking over the original issue date. My "best guess" is that it was the York Battalion, as the 63rd were a Rifles battalion and thus arguably should have had Short Rifles. PS-the Ross Rifle is a different design produced in Canada for their army but also used by the UK and others mainly for training. This handsome rifle has about 70-75% of the original blue remaining, mostly on the barrel, with the balance flaked speckled gray, most noticeably on the receiver ring. ... PS Attached are pictures of my M1917 Rifle (top in 1st pic) and a close up of the receiver markings. Ross M-10 rifle originally issued in 1916 before the Ross was withdrawn from Canadian Service. 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